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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Mayfly » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:30 pm

Excellent - Can't believe I missed this!!

Dougs do you do this as a hobby or is it your work?

I'm beginning to think we need a 'professionals' thread to show case work - we have a few talented members!!
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:09 pm

I just work on them for fun/pass the time while working away from home which is why i get stuff done in fits and starts been having a look at the "professionals" models and they are in a different league my most complete model for instance is about 500k bytes the iris vulcan model is 8mb (16 times more detail) i just love the Avro's design and nobody has done theses models as far as i can see. really enjoy making them too, takes ages tho ~x(
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Mayfly » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:18 am

So my next question is - do you make these available for general use or just fly them yourself for fun?




PS sorry all you talented types for the questions but this type of thing fascinates me :)
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Roving » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:38 pm

Dougs, maybe you could put the aircraft in the very early silver the early B1's had, XA890 had it and the straight wing the Prototype did, maybe reskin it to her? This is the one Roly Falk barrel Rolled at Farnborough :D
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:58 pm

Mayfly wrote:So my next question is - do you make these available for general use or just fly them yourself for fun?

all available for download just look back through this thread for links to simvaition downloads the FSX version is a bit ropey tho because i havent got a very good laptop at the mo so cant debug while away from home :(
Roving wrote:Dougs, maybe you could put the aircraft in the very early silver the early B1's had, XA890 had it and the straight wing the Prototype did, maybe reskin it to her? This is the one Roly Falk barrel Rolled at Farnborough :D

done :) pics to follow just need to get the right gray
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Roving » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:54 pm

Looks great Dougs, plus with the shine it will look great :D Thanks for doing this, will have to think of some more interesting things for you to do with the model when you have some free time :)

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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:51 pm

should look like this when finished
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have also made the proper intakes which look way better now
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dan4th » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:54 pm

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You need someone in the #2 intake
smiling and waving! :D :D :D :D

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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:52 pm

just for you Dan4th
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Hungry Haggis » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:56 pm

Roving wrote:For some reason Dougs i get this problem, do you know what is up? Image

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just downloaded and installed the model from th eFSX link almost diectly above this post and get exactly the same effect any ideas
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:02 pm

yes its the model in FSX the textures work differently to 2004 and they end up transparent instead of reflective. send me your email i will send you the new model and textures that will hopefully work.
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Hungry Haggis » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:11 pm

Dougs wrote:yes its the model in FSX the textures work differently to 2004 and they end up transparent instead of reflective. send me your email i will send you the new model and textures that will hopefully work.


will pm Have tried flight seems to work well fun trying to fly and good nose up wheele landing find my throttle slow to respond It's a Salteck X52 throttle joystick pair
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:17 pm

the slow response prob. because of the quite low power of the conway engines think they are about 8000lb of thrust each thats 10000lb down on the 301 olympus :-o
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Hungry Haggis » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:52 pm

Just got the files loaded in now the vulcan has vanished completly .fully transparent .On running FSX I see the strobes & nothing else.Also FSX just crashed not sure why .

Edit me bad it could be the wrong version I see you have 2 up there one dated 29 may the second 4 june will get second one now and run it see if thats the prob
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:05 pm

Hungry Haggis wrote:Just got the files loaded in now the vulcan has vanished completly .fully transparent .On running FSX I see the strobes & nothing else.Also FSX just crashed not sure why .

Edit me bad it could be the wrong version I see you have 2 up there one dated 29 may the second 4 june will get second one now and run it see if thats the prob


woops i have just sent you an email with the repaint one too you need the thumbnail copied into both texture folders this will be in the fsx version on the web hope it works
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Hungry Haggis » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:00 pm

it works has the wrong pannel but will look at changing for one from another vulcan i have.currently flies like a brick open throttle it goes into a dive close and it seems to fly better might have to reprogram my controls.this manual flying is fun no autopilot or throttle.I don't use autorudder the stick twist works fine.will let you know by email any more when if i find it .
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Sooty655 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:15 pm

Dougs wrote:the slow response prob. because of the quite low power of the conway engines think they are about 8000lb of thrust each thats 10000lb down on the 301 olympus :-o

The RR Avons originally fitted to VX770 were low powered, but the Conways (R.Co.10s) fitted at the end of her life were 16,500 lb thrust. Performance would have been similar to Oly 201s.
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dan4th » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:52 pm

Dougs wrote:just for you Dan4th
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:07 am

Sooty655 wrote:The RR Avons originally fitted to VX770 were low powered, but the Conways (R.Co.10s) fitted at the end of her life were 16,500 lb thrust. Performance would have been similar to Oly 201s.

whoops will uprate the engines thanks for the info :ymapplause:
edit i just found out i had put the thrust at 11,000lb so not too far off but have now got the correct amount :)
just looked at the olympus engines fitted to B1 vulcans ratings are;
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100 - 9,750 lbf (43,400 N)
101 - 11,000 lbf (49 kN)
102 - 12,000 lbf (53 kN)
104 - 13,400 lbf (60,000 N)
the conway was more powerful at the time they were fitted to the vulcan and victor's
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Sooty655 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:11 am

Dougs wrote:
Sooty655 wrote:The RR Avons originally fitted to VX770 were low powered, but the Conways (R.Co.10s) fitted at the end of her life were 16,500 lb thrust. Performance would have been similar to Oly 201s.

whoops will uprate the engines thanks for the info :ymapplause:
edit i just found out i had put the thrust at 11,000lb so not too far off but have now got the correct amount :)

If you are specifically modelling the prototypes, then you have a wide choice of thrust configurations, starting low with Avons, through Sapphires and Olympus 100s, then finally Conways as a flying test bed.

If you want a representative Vulcan B1, I suggest using the Olympus 104 at 13,500 lb thrust.
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:16 am

done thanks :D
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:53 pm

Finally finished the B1 Vulcan reasonably happy and got all the big jobs done may do some little tweeks in the future but apart from that all finished,
From this;
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To this :)
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next up is the Avro Atlantic for some major upgrade work and an FSX super guppy repaint ;)

edit FSX Stratocruiser found here http://www.shockwaveproductions.com/377.html
fantastic to fly and as good as the iris vulcan (have to start it up etc.) well worth buying!
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Hungry Haggis » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:00 pm

Been flying Dougs Vulcan for a short time it goes great and flies well ,Have tried today upping the thrust to 15500 and what an increase in performance is like flying a virtual missile .although his set figure is 13500 I have to say that is enough for this model .What it is i don't really know but will settle on the wing shape & area of the prototype,which obviously limits it's performance.I compared it with a vulcan B2 model I already have and it held up very well only slight differences in speeds height and climb but nothing to be worried about .
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:42 pm

been busy on detailing have now added all the beacons and nav lights stearing fornt wheel better front windows
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Re: VX770 698 vulcan prototype FS9 and FSX

Postby Dougs » Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:25 pm

been busy fixing up the B1 made a new tail and did some debugging for FSX now works rather well have now got to make a panel and swap the sounds
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