Leuchars V Lossie

[Xplumberlives]

Jockland ya say?

[Mags]

That's the one!!

[Mayfly]

17 years in the RAF I never heard Lossie called anything else but just that, unless is was in an official capacity of course. Just as Coltishall was always referred to as Colt and Cranwell very often as Cranners or Waddington as Waddo!!!

it's a forces thing - all things that can be abbreviated are!!

[Hungry Haggis]

Xplumberlives wrote:
SIMPLE, CLOSE ALL the RAF bases within Jockland, they have their own Parliament, let them sort out some defence!


I have read all the threads on this subject and find some of them putting forward good arguments regarding this subject. One of my friends, who is very pedantic, was getting fed up with the term "Lossie" when it should be Lossiemouth, explaining that he also hates terms such as Spit and Hurri. I tried to excplain to him that he just has to accept this. However I did notice XP's remark and feel that I must make a comment. I come from Scotland, not Jockland and although I do not find this offensive I do not like the term Jockland or Jock, but usually accept that this is the way that some people talk. In saying that I know people who do find the term offensive and think that XP should be careful how he expresses himself in a PUBLIC forum. I take it that he was kidding but others wouldn't!

As a naturalised Scot I have no problems with XP or pretty much anyone else calling me a Jock or refering to my homeland as Jockland I also know many many people have no problem with this. But there are places to bring complaints regarding and this is not the topic to do so .Try a Global MOD such as MAYFLY who I am sure will look into any complaint of this nature .However any and every nationality has for generations had some form of nickname attached .Racism certanly not, PC make your own mind up ,It is an identifier in jest And although XP seems to mean it I for one of the JOCK race will lead with the statement no Offence taken by his remark.
NOw can we drag this thread back on topic IE the closure or otherwise of 3 RAF bases each of which means a great deal to the comunities in which they are based .Personally I can't see Leuchars being ditched simply because there is no Interceptor with the range to cover vast areas off the North of Scotland from any base in England and further if there is no Raf Base in Scotland please tell me where an in flight refueling tanker would depart from to meet one before it ran out of fuel and had either to ditch or make a landing to refuel only to need even more once it cleared the north coast .and then even more just to return to the coast if it had to sustain supersonic flight to reach it's target.

NOW as some residents of the USA would say Wake up and smell the coffee.Before it is to late.

[Xplumberlives]

NOw can we drag this thread back on topic IE the closure or otherwise of 3 RAF bases each of which means a great deal to the comunities in which they are based .Personally I can't see Leuchars being ditched simply because there is no Interceptor with the range to cover vast areas off the North of Scotland from any base in England and further if there is no Raf Base in Scotland please tell me where an in flight refueling tanker would depart from to meet one before it ran out of fuel and had either to ditch or make a landing to refuel only to need even more once it cleared the north coast .and then even more just to return to the coast if it had to sustain supersonic flight to reach it's target.

I think there is a possibility of the Typhoons being based at Lossiemouth to give them even longer legs, but as to your comment about the tanker situation, they fly from Brize Norton so that wouldn't be an effective argument to retain Leuchars!

[Hungry Haggis]

I'll conced that one It was after all a rough guess as I wasn't sure where the tankers were based .Lets just drop another into the mix if they dump Leuchars how far north would the airshow circut go and would they then move the Scottish one all the way up to Lossie .Long long way for the general public and also a lot of the attendees at the Leuchars show travel up from the North of England can anyone see them adding another few hours to a trip in each direction .something like leave home on Friday night and get back Sunday morning .Yea i know people like us would do it but with the rising cost of fuel etc can you really see the public doing that ,which I would geuss would then kill of that airshow also the increased costs of fuel for such as the Vulcan would put the orginisers costs up and prevent any big interesting aircraft being booked .I still think they will retain Leuchars and would really hope at least one ot the others .


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[Xplumberlives]

I'll conced that one It was after all a rough guess as I wasn't sure where the tankers were based .Lets just drop another into the mix if they dump Leuchars how far north would the airshow circut go and would they then move the Scottish one all th eway up to Lossie .Long long way for the general public and also a lot of the attendees at the Leuchars show travel up from the North of England can anyone see them adding another few hours to a trip in each direction .something like leave home on Friday night and get back Sunday morning .Yea i know people like us would do it but with the rising cost of fuel etc can you really see th epublic doing that ,which I would geuss would then kill of that airshow also the increased costs of fuel for such as th eVulcan would put the orginisers costs up and prevent any big itneresting aircraft being booked .I still think they will retain Leuchars and would really hope at least one ot the others .

I don't think that AIRSHOWS are particularly high on the RAF/MODs priority list. Either of the two remaining bases would be practical for a couple of Typhoon Squadrons to ply their trade. Perhaps some thought may be given to the money going in to the surrounding areas by our political masters, which may help them in deciding which one to to retain!