'V' Bombers - CH MORE 4 [update 7 Aug]

[Mackrick]

Good program well worth a second viewing thanks for the link..

[Saracenman]

.........Gill had forgotten to set the video!

KILL HER!

[Iggie]

Thoroughly enjoyed the programme, the footage of the Farnborough Roll was excellent!

[Hungry Haggis]

.........Gill had forgotten to set the video!

KILL HER!

Don't Know SM that should be exteminate Or to save having to do it yourself next time retrain.

[Xplumberlives]

if you thought it was good you can FEEDleave back for the TV company - may encourage them to air more progs like this one!!
Nigel Baldwin was, I believe, the guy who was first responsible for suggesting 558 be scrapPed
I would think looking at Martin his bit was recorded about 10-12yrs ago, and I do remember a TV crew at Wellesbourne filming but not sure when it was I would guess about 5-7yrs ago???
Crew Chief may well remember

If only you could type as fast as you mind works!

[Mayfly]

if you thought it was good you can FEEDleave back for the TV company - may encourage them to air more progs like this one!!
Nigel Baldwin was, I believe, the guy who was first responsible for suggesting 558 be scrapPed
I would think looking at Martin his bit was recorded about 10-12yrs ago, and I do remember a TV crew at Wellesbourne filming but not sure when it was I would guess about 5-7yrs ago???
Crew Chief may well remember

If only you could type as fast as youR mind works!

and if you were as good as you preach

[Xplumberlives]

This is FUN, Glad you were paying ATTENTION!!!!!

[Mayfly]

XP you know how much attention I pay to you ...

[and answer your pm's]

[Xplumberlives]

Just don't be late tomorrow!

[Pujgnie]

Watched it.. and enjoyed it thoroughly.

Martin without the 'goatee' seemed a bit odd to watch ( )

I was lead to believe that 2 fully armed Vulcans were in the air 24/7 - during the Cuba Crisis, as a nuclear umbrella for the potential 'outcome' - if political discussions failed. Was this propaganda/wives tales ?

I stand to be corrected by those that know....

[Xplumberlives]

As said in the programme many aircraft were always ready, fully armed and could be in the air in minutes and at times of increased tension the V force was deployed to many bases to make them harder to hit with a first strike!

[Gully]

I was lead to believe that 2 fully armed Vulcans were in the air 24/7 - during the Cuba Crisis, as a nuclear umbrella for the potential 'outcome' - if political discussions failed. Was this propaganda/wives tales ?

Everything I've read suggests they were just(!) at 5 minute readiness. The 'Vulcans, Victors & Cuba' dvd confirms this and goes further in stating that the V-force wasn't even dispersed for fear of how that would be interpreted, so I think it unlikely 2 Vulcans would have been airborne.

Certainly the US had B52's in the air, but then they maintained a constant airborne deterrent anyway.

Gully

[Mayfly]

I've never heard anything to suggest they had 2 airborne. Infact as they could get airborne in less than 2 minutes I don't see the point.

[Saracenman]

i read somewhere only very recently that NONE of the V-Force was ever airborne, fully bombed-up - that was the Murkin way, whereas we had the very-well-rehearsed QRA instead.

the reason given was really very simple - to scramble the most appropriate Squadrons, even at five minute's readiness, was somewhat quicker that diverting anything that might be airborne, inevitably in the 'wrong' bit of sky!

even dispersal training was usually done without the weapons themselves, due to the horrendous handling requirements of the weapons. the HTP fuels were so corrosive and volatile that it was deemed too high a risk to train with them. there were several accidents in the early years - carrying the weapons DID happen, but not very often

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[Pujgnie]

Thanks folks - for all your comprehensive replies/explanations to the 2 Vulcans airborne scenario...

I can now write that off as a 'wives tale'.

SMs post (2nd paragraph) makes very good sense.

[Crew chief]

if you thought it was good you can leave back for the TV company - may encourage them to air more progs like this one!!

Nigel Baldwin was, I believe, the guy who was first responsible for suggesting 558 be scraped

I would think looking at Martin his bit was recorded about 10-12yrs ago, and I do remember a TV crew at Wellesbourne filming but not sure when it was I would guess about 5-7yrs ago???

Crew Chief may well remember

Hi all.
I think it was 2002 Mayfly.

[Mayfly]

Thanks CC 655 stills looks as good today...

[Saracenman]

and GOES just as well!

[Jigsaw]

Watched it last night. Thoroughly enjoyed

[IanM]

It's available to watch on 4oD http://www.channel4.com/programmes/engi ... eapons/4od

[Gully]

Last night's excellent second episode focussed on the development of our A and H bombs. Lots of previously unseen footage shot during Operation Grapple - nice Valiant action!!

Interesting to see nuclear H&S 1950's style...

Gully

[IanM]

And as I mentioned above, available on 4oD

[Mayfly]

for anyone who missed this first time round, there is a re-run..

Saturday 8th, More 4, 21.00hrs of all 3 episodes

[Mags]

Ooooh good