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Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Spitfire » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:33 pm

I tend to read my Flypast magazine in quiet contemplative moments of solitude - in a very small room ;) :p

I am still reading the August issue and have just finished the very very interesting and very comprehensive article on the making of the film Battle Of Britain. I thought this a relevant time to bring this up it being around that time of year.

You may have all read it but for those that havn't I am going to list some facts that amazed me ......

Adolf Galland himself tipped off the film makers about the Hispano Buchons (Bf 109s) and Casas (HE 111s) still in service in Spain - sure enough the Spanish airforce provided 32 Spanish Casa 2 - 111s ( as HE 111s) free of charge for ground and aerial work (18 were seen en masse in the opening scene filmed at Tablada in Spain) - and the film unit bought by tender from the Spanish airforce 28 (YES 28) Buchons as BF 109es - 18 airworthy - 6 taxiable - and 4 for crash scenes ... all were Merlin powered (where on earth did they all go after filming????)

Huelva beach near Madrid was dressed to double as Dunkirk in the french evacuation scenes.

B25J Mitchell N6578D which was the aerial camera platform had its rear tail unit and fuselage vividly colour coded - Green to port and Red to starboard - Yellow and Black stripes on the wings - and engine nacelles in White and Yellow... this enabled pilots to format more easily and accurately for filming.

Concrete bombs were manufactured in Spain and dropped in the sea to simulate the London Blitz - camera angles and post production did the rest.

Only 3 Hurricanes could be found for flight - one of those was privately owned and imported from Canada (a MK XII) - several Buchons were painted as Hurricanes for aerial scenes and can be seen at the back of formations - a mould was taken of LF751 and the full size replicas taken from that were used on the ground.

Spitfires were mostly later marks and had to be disguised to resemble a cross between a Mk V and a Mk IX. Not correct but closer than most of them had started out as a lot were 'tear drop' canopy low backs!! They were all converted by film technicians - it is very well known that it was this film that rescued loads of Spitfires from Gate Guardian duties and got them back in the air - to be replaced by replicas - which is how it should be!!

In the mag is one aerial photo of Duxford in September 1968 in which can be seen - 15 BF 109s - 10 Spitfires - 2 Hurricanes and 1 He 111 !!!

Junkers JU87 Stukas were a real problem - the Air Historic Branch collection of German aircraft had 1 which with some work could be made flyable !!! However it was deemed too risky for such an important airframe - so it was used as taxying only and its Jumo engine was recorded for sound purposes. Instead 4 Percival Proctors were purchased to convert as 'lookalikes' - after conversion they did not fly very well at all and were not used in filming!!! Instead large scale radio controlled models were used.

It just goes on and on - and if I type any more you'll have the whole magazine :D

Thought someone might find these snippets interesting- I've been rivetted to it and am now going to re watch the film with this in my mind.
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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Saracenman » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:36 pm

you're right Spitfire - all the facts and figures behind the film's production are incredible!

many of today's flying Spits are only doing so BECAUSE of the film - it was said at the time that the film makers had one of the largest airforces in the World at the time! =))

still a cracking film though - superbly made - it'll ALWAYS stand the test of time :ymapplause:

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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:39 pm

Thanks, I read the article in August! :p
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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Mackrick » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:41 pm

Some interesting fact and figures there SF.
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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Mayfly » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:22 pm

they restored Spitfire P7350 (Mk IIa) and then gave it to BBMF... \:D/
In memory of a very dear friend - Mike Pearson

Very fond memories of Robbie Gilvary - DTs 1st Vulcan Captain who taught DT all he knew.
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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:24 pm

Susannah York, staying over with Christopher Plummer!
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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby MadNaddy » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:37 pm

I know what I'm going to be watching when I get the time!

Thanks for that interesting information
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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:43 pm

MadNaddy wrote:I know what I'm going to be watching when I get the time!
Thanks for that interesting information



Is that really you Naddy or has someone hacked in to your computer?
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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Hihonyr8811 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:34 pm

I'm still reading Julys issue =))
So shush, havn't read it yet :p :D

But in my defence, mum nicks off with them never to be seen again =))
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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Spitfire » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:46 pm

I have an inkling that this years birthday present from SWMBO is flypast subscription :D :D

(I know its an inkling because I ordered it for her yesterday :p :p - she doesn't 'do' internet ordering ;) - good arrangement - choose and order your own present \:D/ \:D/ )
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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:47 pm

Make sure you're not paying for it too! :-o
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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Spitfire » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:00 pm

Xplumberlives wrote:Make sure you're not paying for it too! :-o


No option - life long dedication to joint accounts - what's mine is hers and whats hers is hers :D :p
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Re: Flypast & The Battle Of Britain Film

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:03 pm

Well if you are paying for it, it seems only right and proper that you should choose the gift! \:D/
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