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Postby Mayfly » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:05 am

So the UN has backed a no fly zone over Libya then - will be interesting to see what part we play!!
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:11 am

We SHOULDN'T play ANY part, the RAF and the other forces have just undergone massive cuts and once again the Government is calling for extra involvement!

Worst decision the current Government have made yet! ~x(
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby RLN » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:06 am

If it helps to get rid of Gaddafi- then good.
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Nickolas » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:35 pm

Smacks of Falklands War..........
Drag out what's at the back of the hangar, halt the mothballing, root around in the scrap heaps and cobble together something of some use............ ~x( ~x( ~x( ~x(

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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Mayfly » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:10 pm

Hmmm so Gaddaffi has agreed to the UN resolution!! interesting...

Won't stop military planning tho' and both Typhoons and Tornados to be involved.


http://www.channel4.com/news/british-warplanes-poised-to-move-against-gaddafi
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:17 pm

RLN wrote:If it helps to get rid of Gaddafi- then good.




[-x It is NOT our fight, he hasn't crossed any borders! [-x
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby RLN » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:30 pm

It is and will always be our fight. Our armed forces haven't been used solely to defend Britain since The Armada. Of course defending Britain is part of it, but we fought France to protect our foreign commercial interests, and in the 1800s to further our Empire for commercial interests (Pax Britannicum). The 1st WW was again to protect our foreign interests and to maintain Belgian neutrality to act as a buffer against the Germans. The 2nd WW again was to stop Fascism taking root in this country. We didn't do anything to just protect Britain - even if the RAF had lost the "Battle of Britain", the Nazis wouldn't have invaded; quite simply because they didn't have the sea power. The Korean War, The Cold War - these were wars of ideology and politics that we took part in to protect what we thought to be right. I imagine that no-one thinks we are capable of policing the World, but when you are a member of the UN or NATO and you subscribe to a course of action that you think is right, then you have to do it whether you like it or not.
I'm sure the Military and the people on the front line will want to do it - after all, that is what they train for; and quite frankly, what they get paid to do. If Libya didn't have oil, I'm sure it would be a different matter.
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby LightningMk6 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:19 pm

Here we go again, another day another conflict and William Hague has got his wish it seems, pity they could not have foreseen this coming and scaled the military cut backs accordingly, UK armed forces stretched to the limits once again and all for the sake of the Libyan oil I dare say. Will be interesting to see what role we can play in this campaign.
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:32 pm

Libyan oil production only amounts to about 2% of the total amount!
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Jigsaw » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:41 pm

Problem is. 2% of a helluva lot is a lot mate.
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Cluny » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:03 pm

I agree with XPL .
Its a civil war so we should just let them get on with it and not get involved .
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby RLN » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:23 pm

And have a repeat of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Mayfly » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:31 pm

I think this is a classic case of things not being as simple or as easy as some think. Whilst I understand the sentiment of 'It's none of our business' we are going to be involved for the reasons stated by RLN, but I would would like to see the Arab nations take the lead.
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Dickon » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:21 pm

Xplumberlives wrote:We SHOULDN'T play ANY part, the RAF and the other forces have just undergone massive cuts and once again the Government is calling for extra involvement!

Worst decision the current Government have made yet! ~x(



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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Dan4th » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:33 pm

At the very least, this may drive home the
point that the UK does NEED to have at least
a Certain Level of military capability and
readiness.

How you USE that capability is none of my
business......

The Politics surrounding this situation is none
of my business......

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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Mayfly » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:50 am

MOD press statement over night says Tornados from Marham flew a 3000 mile round trip and launched Stormshadow.

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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Dan4th » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:21 pm

Sorry about the commercial.........

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42178598#42178598

So, what happens next??????????

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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Mayfly » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:50 pm

No idea but I wish someone would the MOD spokesperson - some army chap that RAF Lyneham is NOT in Norfolk and neither does it base Tornados and the Sentry is NOT an AWACY - 3D!! ~x( ~x( ~x(
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Xplumberlives » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:10 pm

Good to see STORMSHADOW used in anger for the first time!

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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Hihonyr8811 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:36 pm

Mayfly wrote:No idea but I wish someone would the MOD spokesperson - some army chap that RAF Lyneham is NOT in Norfolk and neither does it base Tornados and the Sentry is NOT an AWACY - 3D!! ~x( ~x( ~x(



The other night look north showed some random stock video of a VC-10 with the caption AWACS from RAF Waddington, that made me chuckle :))
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Xplumberlives » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:39 pm

Mayfly wrote:No idea but I wish someone would the MOD spokesperson - some army chap that RAF Lyneham is NOT in Norfolk and neither does it base Tornados and the Sentry is NOT an AWACY - 3D!! ~x( ~x( ~x(



NO, but surely it is an AWAC E3D is it not? ;)
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Mayfly » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:45 pm

But that's not what he called it - he called it an Awacy [Awackie]......... 3D
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Xplumberlives » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:47 pm

Mayfly wrote:But that's not what he called it - he called it an Awacy [Awackie]......... 3D




Do Specsavers have a range of hearing aids? =))


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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Hihonyr8811 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:51 pm

But that's not right anyway, one of the USAF AWACS crew that was at Waddington in 08 I think it was, got very upset when someone dropped the S off the end :))
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Re: UN No Fly Zone

Postby Xplumberlives » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:52 pm

Hihonyr8811 wrote:But that's not right anyway, one of the USAF AWACS crew that was at Waddington in 08 I think it was, got very upset when someone dropped the S off the end :))




Blimey, who worries about offending Murkins? :-o
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