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11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Mayfly » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:07 am

An 11 year old lad got himself on to a Jet 2 flight and half way to Rome without a ticket or boarding pass or his parents.... :))

Whilst not really funny I can see how a child could do it rather than an adult. I bet his parents were frantic. So much for airport security in Olympic week!
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Jet Morgan » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:01 am

Fantastic security! :-o
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Jigsaw » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:39 am

:-o Speaks volumes eh?
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Mayfly » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:44 am

It happened at Manchester and according to reports he was seen to be hanging around couples with children. Not only did he manage to get half way to Rome but it was passengers who questioned who was with rather than the cabin crew :-o [so it said on the news].
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Yorkie » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:52 pm

he got all the way to rome! and was returned on the flight back.

I wonder if jet2 will bill his parents?

how much did his parents know? if i lost my child in an airport i would make sure someone did something.

does make you question the security, especially as my 8yr old will carry "my special bag" for me anywhere.

Mine only has my camera in....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-18979032
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby 10680 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:27 pm

Quote on the TV this a.m. was that an extra passenger was not a security risk, only fewer passengers!!!!
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Yorkie » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:36 pm

10680 wrote:Quote on the TV this a.m. was that an extra passenger was not a security risk, only fewer passengers!!!!


That has got to be the quote of the year.... and was done on national tv?

which of these would you see as a security risk?

* persons boarding a plane unchecked
* persons leaving country without passport
* aircrew not noticing said person
* person getting through security checks without appropriate adult

one other thing to consider is, how many 11yr olds do you know that do not have mobile phones? or carry money or anything metal? therefore the security wasn't working properly unless the child knows airports, which makes it worse really.

at least theres nothing big happening in the country at the moment and we are not on a heightened alert ~x( ~x(
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Hungry Haggis » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:02 pm

Yorkie wrote:he got all the way to rome! and was returned on the flight back.

I wonder if jet2 will bill his parents?

how much did his parents know? if i lost my child in an airport i would make sure someone did something.

does make you question the security, especially as my 8yr old will carry "my special bag" for me anywhere.

Mine only has my camera in....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-18979032



Going from the lunchtime news here they had gone shopping (presumably in Manchester centre) and the mother did not notice he had absconded legged it disapeared for some time.So how did he get from there to the airport.You have to admit it make the whole airport security thing a bit of a joke.I bet all other airports are frantically checking their's if it happens once who says it won't again .
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Howslo » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:13 pm

I heard about it on the radio, but misheard. I thought they said he was 7. Now to an extent, a 7 year old I could understand, as they are probably small enough to blend in with a crowd and perhaps slip through unnoticed. But most 11 year olds I know have the stealth abilities of a heard of elephants!
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Xplumberlives » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:34 pm

Yorkie wrote:he got all the way to rome! and was returned on the flight back.

I wonder if jet2 will bill his parents?

how much did his parents know? if i lost my child in an airport i would make sure someone did something.

does make you question the security, especially as my 8yr old will carry "my special bag" for me anywhere.Mine only has my camera in....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-18979032




You make a child carry your Caffita bag! :-o
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Lucas1860 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:37 am

Interesting report, yes Jet2 have to answer questions on security, however at what stage does the parent call the police to report the child missing. Bear in mind, a three mile walk from the shopping centre, the walk around the airport etc, this could have been hours. I see no times are quoted. I suspect the press are a little economical with the full report. Just highlighting the child on a plane.

I can see how a child could have made it on the aircraft. We have to bear in mind that before he boarded the plane, he went through passport control, the body scanner, the whole job lot, Manchester is very strict on the passport control side of things.

So in fairness, the actually boarding of the plane comes after you have passed all the other security elements there.

Jet2 in my view are the fall guys here when really it should have stopped prior to the child getting to the departure gate.
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Mayfly » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:31 am

I agree with you Jim, as always this is not just 1 person/company/bodys fault it's a combination of factors all combining at the same time. As I said in the first post I can see how a child could get through.

I got the impression tho' that the whole of the childs family were at the airport and were looking for him in the airport shops but I may be wrong.
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Lucas1860 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:14 am

I saw a news item last night, it said the he and mum were at a shopping outlet 3 miles away, he walked to the airport. They were later contacted by the Police of his journey.
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Mayfly » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:35 am

:-o The little monkey, typical male shopper then goes off to find something better to do!! :))
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Ramshornvortex » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:02 pm

You make a child carry your Caffita bag!


Do you mean a catheter XP? :p
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:25 pm

Ramshornvortex wrote:
You make a child carry your Caffita bag!


Do you mean a catheter XP? :p




I bow to your superior knowledge, I am of course too young to have ever had one! :p
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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Dan4th » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:01 pm

BRACE yourself, DXP!

Your Day May Arrive :ymdevil:

As Might MINE :((

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Re: 11 year old goes on holiday

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:04 pm

Dan4th wrote:BRACE yourself, DXP!

Your Day May Arrive :ymdevil:

As Might MINE :((

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I do hope not! :D
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