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by **Dan4th** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:31 pm

From last summer, but just to show we'll
be starting to see these soon.......

I for one am glad we have both Boeing and
Aeroboose duking it out in the marketplace....

Danf.

by **Saracenman** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:02 pm

nice to see RR engines

it's interesting that, despite the 787 being every bit as modern as Airbus, Boeing still opt for the standard control column, rather than Airbus style joysticks :-?

nice clip - thanks Danf :ymapplause:

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by **Dan4th** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:19 pm

Just four hours ago..........

First Flight is next Tuesday, 15/12/09.
I'll keep an eye open for a live feed for on here.

Danf.

by **Saracenman** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:26 pm

it's actually bigger than i first thought - more 767 size than 757, as I'd always thought

first flight next week eh? $\:D/$

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by **Dan4th** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:51 pm

yerself!

50% plastic and very eco-friendly......

http://www.examiner.com/x-12585-Minneapolis-AirlinesAirport-Examiner~y2009m12d12-Boeings-787-Dreamliner-is-just-about-ready-to-flymore-than-2-years-behind-schedule

D.

by **Saracenman** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:52 pm

80% composite I'd heard

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by **Dan4th** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:57 pm

50% by weight, 80% by volume.........

The 787 features lighter-weight construction. Its materials (by weight) are: 50% composite, 20% aluminum, 15% titanium, 10% steel, 5% other.[91][92] The 787 will be 80% composite by volume.[93] Each 787 contains approximately 35 tons of carbon fiber reinforced plastic, made with 23 tons of carbon fiber.[94] Carbon fiber composites have a higher strength to weight ratio than traditional aircraft materials, and help make the 787 a lighter aircraft.[92] Composites are used on fuselage, wings, tail, doors, and interior. Aluminum is used on wing and tail leading edges, titanium used mainly on engines with steel used in various places.[92]

The longest-range 787 variant can fly 8,000 to 8,500 nautical miles (14,800 to 15,700 km), enough to cover the Los Angeles to Bangkok or New York City to Taipei routes. It will have a cruise speed of Mach 0.85[95] (561 mph, 903 km/h at typical cruise altitudes).

by **Saracenman** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:01 pm

blimey Danf - not often we're BOTH right is it? =))

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by **Dan4th** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:23 pm

by **Saracenman** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:48 pm

are they 80% porcelain by volume, or 50% by weight Danf? =))

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by **Xplumberlives** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:50 pm

I wonder if any aluminium is used in that aircraft!

by **Dan4th** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:05 pm

No, but the pork gets packed IN the stuff......

Danf.

by **Dougs** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:30 pm

glad this project is finally moving getting a bit slow in the engine manufacturing market great to see how quiet the engines are

cant wait to see the XWB (trent 2000?) engine, the parts look really diferent to the current tech.

by **Dan4th** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:53 pm

A long view and with thrust reversers...........

How often do you get out to Washington
State, Dougs???

Danf.

by **Spitfire** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:53 am

[daft question mode] What is the piece of trailing wire with a 'rag' on the end
at the top of the fin? [/daft question mode]

by **Xplumberlives** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:25 am

No idea, but I would love to find out!

by **Dan4th** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:53 pm

Just a guess, and this seems a little
stoopid to me, but you would have to
assume there are 1,000s of photos
being taken of the ground runs, not
just videos. Might be a way to tell at
a glance if a pic shows the aircraft at
rest, moving slowly or moving quickly....

Does that make any sense to anyone?

Here's the first wheelie from yesterday:::::::::::::

Danf.

by **Saracenman** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:31 pm

looks to have a very short takeoff run - although i doubt it's anywhere near MTOW for taxy tests

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by **Dan4th** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:39 pm

Well, you'd think they'd have to do at
least some ground runs with the fuel
topped-off.......

After it's flown, it might be fun to
know how they simulate a full load
of pax and luggage. Sand bags for
butts in seats you think?

Danf.

by **Saracenman** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:45 pm

it's usually little more than exactly that! i think the A380 carried drums of water around for a while

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by **Hungry Haggis** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:26 pm

Spitfire wrote:[daft question mode] What is the piece of trailing wire with a 'rag' on the end
at the top of the fin? [/daft question mode]

I think it could have something to do with radios look on any pics of Large airliners they all have it.Stuck neck out to be chopped by DB who could also maybe be the right person to answer.

by **Dan4th** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:55 pm

Here's the future, I guess..............

And such a nice Irish accent, too!

Danf.

by **Nickolas** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:19 pm

Spitfire wrote:[daft question mode] What is the piece of trailing wire with a 'rag' on the end
at the top of the fin? [/daft question mode]

Gunnery practice...... =))

It's the target........ =))

by **Air** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:45 pm

Saracenman wrote:it's usually little more than exactly that! i think the A380 carried drums of water around for a while

I saw a TV programme about the A380 tests and it indeed had big tanks which could be filled to resemble different weights for testing.

There were no seats or fittings inside, the wiring was all exposed and there were loads of computers onboard collecting data.

I saw the A380 at Farnborough back in 2008. What a beast it is, and surprisingly agile when displaying.
Shame it didn't make MORE noise though.

by **Xplumberlives** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:02 pm

Dan4th wrote:Just a guess, and this seems a little
stoopid to me, but you would have to
assume there are 1,000s of photos
being taken of the ground runs, not
just videos. Might be a way to tell at
a glance if a pic shows the aircraft at
rest, moving slowly or moving quickly....

Does that make any sense to anyone?
Danf.

I think you may have something there Darnforth! :ymapplause:

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